Minnesota Population
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A 7-minute dramatization of the history of population growth in Minnesota and its impact on natural resources. Uploaded with the permission of the copyright holder, World Population Balance.
Tags for this video: growth iron midwest Minnesota natural population resources topsoil upper wheat.
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| How are we suppose ... ( 1 year ago by CrazyBikeMan) |
| How are we suppose to just "stop" the population groath? Is someone going to ask everyone to just stop having sex, or are we going to let everyone die off slowly? If we try to get all of our rescources from in-state, there will eventually not be enough food and cloathing for people, and everyone will start dying younger. So I guess I just don't know how we can humanely stop it. |
| So are there many ... ( 1 year ago by savepenguintrees) |
| So are there many native species left in minnesota ? What exactly are you trying to achieve. Surely your ultimate goal is more than the goal of bacteria and cancer: i.e multiply forever Do you enjoy living on top of each other ? with no green spaces, or other animals and plants ? What is the point ?. Economies and technology can grow without exponential population growth. |
| In 1994, the UN ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| In 1994, the UN held a population summit in Cairo (Google "Cairo Programme Action") which made the case that education, not any sort of demographic targets or arbitrary "stop having sex" agenda, was the key to stopping population growth. The education need not be specifically about population growth, but it doesn't hurt! Most of the nations on Earth signed the Cairo Programme of Action, including the Vatican, but the US has not honored its financial obligations. |
| wheat... wtf... we ... ( 1 year ago by chukmaty) |
| wheat... wtf... we grow corn... you almost never have seen wheat in Minnesota... corn and soy beans is the primary crop and wheat is not... wrong climate period. |
| We grow corn *now*, ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| We grow corn *now*, yes. But I needed historical data for the film, and historically Minnesota grew wheat for much longer than it has grown corn. The rise and fall of wheat production was not because of a change in the climate; it rose because farmers put thousands of acres into production of a single crop and then could not sustain that level of production. Corn has been on the rise for the last 60 years but may well follow the same path. |
| that is not the way ... ( 1 year ago by chukmaty) |
| that is not the way the vid gave information... Minnesota never was a prime area for wheat crops. also updated methods are doing a better job maintaining ground soil. |
| On the contrary, ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| On the contrary, Minneapolis was the flour milling capital of the world for 50 years, and that was a major cause of its population growth. Admittedly, not all of that wheat came from Minnesota, but much of it did. And according to my research for the video, the rate of soil erosion is increasing, not decreasing, but in any case *any* net loss of topsoil is unsustainable over time. |
| My theory is that ... ( 1 year ago by Depotmaster) |
| My theory is that population can regulate itself in developed countries, but I bet you wouldn't believe. When the economy hits tho bottom of the possible productivity, the social pressure and unemployment makes the people stop having kids like in Japan or Germany. |
| You're not alone in ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| You're not alone in that theory, and the birth rate of the US is below replacement levels, but the US is growing more like a developing country than a developed one due to its extraordinarily high immigration rates -- higher than all the other developed countries combined. That is problematic because Americans (including recent immigrants) consume far more resources per capita than any other country. |
| Maybe the ... ( 1 year ago by Depotmaster) |
| Maybe the immigration will stop when the USA will not be attractive anymore. You really want that instead? |
| Worldwide, the most ... ( 1 year ago by nerd0decoder) |
| Worldwide, the most effective form of birth control has been demonstrated to be selfishness. Yep, in developed countries, young people don't want to have kids because kids interfere with their fun. See how the populations of Europe and Japan are stagnated, even shrinking. |
| Do you really think ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| Do you really think selfishness is the only factor that distinguishes Europe and Japan from the developing world? Or that it is even *a* point of distinction between those countries? The UN has determined that the factor you've identified is education, not selfishness. If you have the evidence to prove that the UN is wrong and you are right, then more power to you. |
| If it was education ... ( 1 year ago by nerd0decoder) |
| If it was education that was reducing reproduction in developed countries, then those countries that are in a panic over population loss would be able to "educate" people into having more kids. They can't. Instead governments are having to pay premiums to young people to have more kids. |
| The UN's conclusion ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| The UN's conclusion is that education (regardless of the subject) causes people to have fewer kids, not more. The politicians who are paying people to have more kids are mistaken -- their populations are still unsustainably large and must decrease one way or another. |
| People aren't ... ( 1 year ago by nerd0decoder) |
| People aren't starving in Italy, Japan, Russia, and France. But their pension systems are going to go bankrupt without enough people to support the retirees. Each of those countries has been trying to increase reproduction without success. Some are actually seeing their populations shrink, which is a disaster for them. |
| The thing about an ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| The thing about an UNSUSTAINABLE population is that it HAS to shrink, one way or another, sooner or later. Countries like Italy are extremely fortunate to be able to do it in a controlled fashion. Pension systems will just have to be reinvented so that they are not based on a pyramid scheme. |
| The thing is, those ... ( 1 year ago by nerd0decoder) |
| The thing is, those countries don't have unsustainable populations. India and China, maybe Japan. Each of those countries can sustain its own population by choosing the best crops, recycling, and managing its forests wisely. Russian in particular could product probably ten times the food it does now. |
| Why stop there? If ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| Why stop there? If we were all an inch high, we could live in the Astrodome! What does that prove? Ecology is not based on wishful thinking about what a species' impact would be if it were different from the way it is. Every country in the world is overpopulated because we are using resources faster than they regenerate. That's the definition of overpopulation, and of unsustainability. |
| i see the north is ... ( 1 year ago by ChevRcr454) |
| i see the north is still relitivly untouched by people. you know we do actualy have alot of land untouched by the plow?. the north and northeast have alot of woodlands, and the hills make it difficult for farmers so they go to the RRV and the south |
| It's not an ... ( 1 year ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| It's not an accident that land hasn't been plowed: it's not suitable for cultivation. The same goes for most of Canada and Alaska! |
| The video talks ... ( 7 months ago by WhisperSweetNothings) |
| The video talks about stopping population growth, but it doesn't say how. Should we shoot them? Force women to have abortions? Penalize a woman for exercising her right and her choice to reproduce? Which people do we prohibit from breeding? Are some purer than others? I was going to say that the whole thing sounds kind of communist, but I think I'll use the word Nazi. It's kind of troubling that the HOW part was kind of left out. So how should the population be controlled, and who will enforce? |
| Good point, I was ... ( 5 months ago by mrhobs) |
| Good point, I was sort of thinking the same thing about them not saying how. (The website probably has more info.) I think it's possible for the world to live relatively responsibly... but it won't happen. Jesus will have to return to save us. |
| Does Nike tell you ... ( 5 months ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| Does Nike tell you how to "just do it?" This video is an advertisement for a Web site, intended to get you interested in the topic. I'm sorry that it made you assume the worst. |
| You're right, ... ( 3 months ago by ZaneRokklyn) |
| You're right, there's room for improvement -- it was our first video! But the reason for including iron as one of the resources is that iron has been EXTREMELY important in the history of northern Minnesota -- it is the reason so many people moved there, and its depletion is the reason for their economy's collapse in recent decades. So the history of iron mining is directly connected to the history of the population in that area. |
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